So You Think You Are Free?

America. Land of the free. Right?

Well, I used to think so.

I had an interesting conversation with a new friend recently, about our country and where we are headed as a nation. He said something that has really had me thinking, “Name one thing that you can do without government permission.”


Have you ever stopped to think about how many things you have to get a license or permit for? Let’s see: Driving, Getting Married, Starting a Business, Selling Food, Firearms, Hunting & Fishing, Practicing Medicine (and many other professions including Ministers!), Building a House (or anything else on your own property!), owning a cat or dog in some cities, and even conducting a Bible Study in your own home in many cases! Come to think of it, we need a license or permit to do a whole lot of things that we ought to be free by nature to do.

Do you know the definition of a “license”? I used to think that it was used to prove something, but here is how it is defined by Wikipedia:

The verb license or grant license means to give permission. The noun license (licence in Commonwealth spelling) refers to that permission as well as to the document memorializing that permission. License may be granted by a party (“licensor”) to another party (“licensee”) as an element of an agreement between those parties. A shorthand definition of a license is “an authorization (by the licensor) to use the licensed material (by the licensee).”

Or how about this definition from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

1 a : permission to act b : freedom of action
2 a : a permission granted by competent authority to engage in aΒ business or occupation or in an activity otherwise unlawful.

Did you get that? Getting a license is asking for permission. We have to ask for permission from our government to travel. We have to ask permission from our government to get married. We have to ask for permission to build a home on our own land.

Does anybody else have a problem with that?

Shouldn’t we have a right to travel freely? Do we not pay taxes to build the roads we drive on? Why then must I ask permission to use the very roads I pay for?

Shouldn’t we be able to marry whoever we want without having to ask the government’s permission to do so? Did you catch that a license grants us permission to do that which would otherwise be illegal? Is marriage not a covenant between us and God? Since when does the state have the authority to tell us whether or not we can marry? That is a God given right! And did you know that signing the marriage license creates a legal agreement between you and the State, which gives them a right to any of the fruits of your marriage, including your property and your children!

(I truly regret not knowing more about this sooner, as my husband and I most certainly would not have naively gotten a marriage license.)

And why do we have to ask permission to build a house on our own land? Why can’t we simply buy a piece of land, build whatever dwelling we please on it, and live in peace? Is it not a natural right to be able to do so? Why do we continue to bow down and ask permission? “Oh, all powerful government, may I please build a roof over my head, and a home for my family? Please??” Why do we not demand our right to do so freely?

And they get even bolder by asserting rights over our children. We cannot even school our own children without asking permission from the state first!! And there is talk of requiring a license before one can become a parent. It’s coming. Watch and see. They are already installing government surveillance cameras in homes in the UK, to make sure that parents are properly caring for the children. Where will we draw the line?!

I bring these things to your attention because we have become so conditioned to accept “whatever”. We simply follow along, like good little Lemmings, and do whatever we are told to do without questioning the reason. It’s time that we make ourselves more aware of the little ways our freedoms are being striped away. Now is the time to begin bucking the system, standing up for our rights, and questioning unconstitutional laws.Β  If we do not begin to speak up now, it will quickly be too late.

I am sad to say that we are no longer a free people. Our freedom is just an illusion. And if we don’t start fighting back and draw that line in the sand, we will quickly see what few remaining liberties we have vanish away.

64 thoughts on “So You Think You Are Free?”

  1. Amen, Kendra! I couldn’t agree more! There is quite a movement stirring here in Idaho because we’re sick of losing our freedoms. I honestly cannot wait till Nov. in the hopes that there will be a huge overturn of dems and RINOs who are creating law after law that only impose on our freedoms. If I own my land and my house I shouldn’t have to pay a dime more and if I want my house to look like a pink shoe it’s my prerogative. So many people just willingly, time and time again, take this sitting down. Pretty soon we’re going to need ‘permission’ aka permits to breath. This is just absurd. This land and our lives are God given and therefore no government can impose itself on us. However, if we continue, as a nation, to turn a blind eye and keep our mouths shut that’s exactly what will continue to happen. We need to leap to our feet and hit the ground running on these extremely important issues. We MUST constantly remind the government that we supply its funding, we create their jobs, and we are a government of the people, by the people, for the people. The saddest thing to me is that most people don’t realize that almost ALL of these laws are unconstitutional. Where is the constitution does it give the government the right to make me test my car’s emissions or have a driver’s license? OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!

  2. Kendra, sorry this is so long! about the above, I always heard “common law” marriage, but where we live, I guess it dont matter anyway. But if you revoke your license, will you be considered divorced? will you have to go through all that legal stuff?

    • Sandra,

      From what I’ve read, even if you legally divorce, which you would have to pay yet another fee for, and yes, all of the legal proceedings, you will still be in contract with the state. The marriage license is not voided, only amended… meaning they still have rights.

  3. I f you have your marriage license revoked what will happen to your ability to draw social security from your husband?( o.k. play along and pretend that it will exist in our future) or God forbid , would your minor children be able to draw social security if something happened to him? It may vary from state to state, I dont know. I knew a lady where I live who was never marriedto, but lived with a man for 20 years that I know of. when he died, they wouldent let her sign for his body to be released for a funeral. he was out of touch with the grown children he had, and they requried a family memeber to sign for his body. she had to get a lawyer and after they couldent get in touch with his next of kin, she finally had his funeral a couple of months after the fact.

  4. Kendra, thank you for your blog. I found it a little while back and have really enjoyed it. πŸ™‚

    I was researching how to revoke a marriage license last night (yes, my husband and I are happily married, lol) I found this very disturbing info:

    Ugh! How could I have been so naive/stupid to do this to ourselves and to our children! Oh yeah, I attended public school and didn’t learn how to think for myself. πŸ™

    • Gina,

      Thank you for sharing those links!!! I am frustrated beyond belief that we were never told these things! I, too, am a public school victim. I am just now learning to challenge all that I was ever taught. What can we do? These contracts were entered into without full disclosure. We were tricked… conned!! My children are NOT the property of the State!!!! Ugh, makes me furious just thinking about it. My husband and I have also been looking into revoking our marriage license with the State. Not that we won’t still be married… just with God as the center, not the State. I think becoming a Sovereign Citizen may be the only solution.

  5. I think we’re free to read books without a license.

    I think.

    So far.

    Of course, if you come under public scrutiny for anything (even something that you didn’t actually do), any book you read that isn’t politically correct will be used against you.

    So maybe the term “free” to read isn’t quite accurate.


  6. Okay, for all of you who don’t understand sarcasm – just to clarify…. no, I don’t think it’s okay, or a great idea, for the government to stick cameras in our homes. My original POINT was, I was looking for a recipe on Kendra’s blog when I saw this: ‘” Watch and see. They are already installing government surveillance cameras in homes in the UK, to make sure that parents are properly caring for the children. Where will we draw the line?!”‘ and I thought “oh my, everybody in the UK is going to have the government watching them in their homes!” then I read the original news article quoted (within another blog- Kendra’s “news” source)and find out …’s the junkies whose children were being reunited with them that they’re purposing a program involving cameras. Which is crazy, yes, but not exactly what you originally imagine when you read that quote. And yes, my neighbor is still a crackhead with a passel of kids that run around practically naked (in diapers) unattended at 11:00 at night. But I digress. My other main point is, I am still unclear exactly HOW it works that if I have a marriage certificate stating that I am legally married to my husband, the government now gets to take away my property and children? The pamphlet Kendra linked to printed by a Wisconsin pastor had some kind of anti-government rhetoric but didn’t back up the claim by explaining how this contract works. I really, truly would like to know. If Uncle Sam is going to swoop in and take my home and kids, how does that work? As for the licenses debate, and free trade crap, it’s beyond my time allotment to get into that- I’ve got 3 kids to bathe and put to bed. Sweet dreams, everybody.

    • brandie,

      Sorry this discussion has become so heated for you!! I wanted to answer your question about the marriage license. You will not find the wording of the rights of the state on your license. The terms of the agreement are within the definition of the contract. And it isn’t that the state will come in and take all of your things (though they potentially could), it’s just that they now have a say in it. So, if, Lord forbid, you ever want to get a divorce, you must get permission from the state (as well as pay yet another fee), and ultimately the judge gets to decide who gets the house and the kids. And if the judge wants to rule in favor of the parent who is anti-God, or anti-homeschooling, then the Christian parent looses their parental rights to their children. There are too many cases where the state has come in and declared a perfectly wonderful mother to be “unfit” and has snatched that child up and put them in foster care. In the state’s eyes, your children are property of the state.

      I do appreciate you voicing your opinion. It has made for some very good discussion!!! I hope that you haven’t become too offended, or won’t want to participate in the next debate. I think it’s important for people to have intelligent conversation about what is going on in our world today. Let’s just do it with respect for each other πŸ˜‰

  7. Okay! Back from the garden. Squash! Yummy!

    Sandra, we are indeed very blessed (not by worldly standards though). However, most folks wouldn’t live like we do to be debt free. I know Kendra has mentioned wishing for something small and simple to be debt free. Well, that’s us. Not braggin’, just explainin’. We have a major adversion to debt. Thankfully, both of us. And no, we do not have a fat paycheck to go with it, in fact we are in the “poverty” guidelines. We try to live by the depression saying, “Use it up, wear it out, make it last or do without”. We have simple priorities that help keep us focused. I guess my point is anyone can do it. You just have to know what you want and get sick to your stomach at the thought of owing someone else your livelihood for the next 30 years or however long.

    And back to the licenses and regulations, it would be a lot more doable for folks if they didn’t have a lot of expensive and unnecessary rules and regulations regarding building their own homes. Like a previous poster said, there are a lot of old homes and barns still standing from back when building inspector did not exist.

    Okay – nuff said. πŸ™‚

  8. Diane, if you are mortgage free, you are much better off than someone in a mcmansion whether they got mortgage assistance or not. I dont guess their house was given to them for free, and theyre still having to pay one way or another to live there. unless you really dont like your house, consider yourself blessed! there are many who simply cannot afford to own or pay cash like you did.

  9. Gee Eric, you got me on the BP oil spill. I don’t have a clue how that could have been prevented. As far as the bad mortgages, we got ripped off by being debt free. We scrimped and saved and did without so we could be mortgage free and then see Joe Blow in his McMansion with his big screens and multiple new cars get off with a bailout. In a free market – someone who realizes, my butt will be on the street if I can’t pay this off, will be a lot more inclined to carefully assess his debt level and make the sacrifices to make sure he can cover his behind.

    I do not have an “us against them” attitude. The majority of sheeple have a lay down and take it attitude or think more and bigger government will solve all their problems. Its the cradle to grave mentality – we want the government to take care of us attitude. Which I believe is really close to becoming an *ism. Pick one. Facism, Communism, Globalism, etc.

    Over and out. : ) Going to go work in the garden some more. Thankfully, at least I don’t need a license to grow my own tomatoes, YET! : )

  10. Diane, What about the BP oil spill? How would a free market prevent such problems? Or the housing bubble that burst 2 years ago over all the bad mortgages? In a free market, if you allow for corporations, isn’t it in the corporations’ interest to take such risks? If you can take a risk that would primarily pay you but primarily cost the public, isn’t that a winning bet (and a smart business move)?

    I’m also suspicious of the “us against them” idea. Do you think we’ve been robbed of our freedoms? It seems more like the majority of us have demanded that our freedoms be taken away. Look at the pending food safety legislation, for instance. Isn’t that in response to the public outcry over the spinach, peanut, and tomato/pepper outbreaks? I don’t see that these things are being forced on us by someone else. Most regulations pass with majority support from the public, don’t they?

  11. The concern over if we don’t have licenses or regulations, then everyone will die from shoddy construction, or tainted products is based on a propped up economy. We no longer have a true free market. If there was, then the farmer who sold stuff unfit for consumption, would quickly go out of business because the market would quit buying his low quality products in favor of someone who delivers quality goods. As it is, we have subsidies to encourage these people to keep on producing. And now the good ole government is in the banking, arts, insurance, automotive, health care, etc. industries. The free market is dead. Which is exactly what they wanted. Power and control.

    The licenses is more about revenue for the state or government than safety for the masses. Follow the money trail people. I mean do you think it is really going to help the safety of the public to have drivers licenses? What about all the millions of illegals who drive our roads everyday. They certainly didn’t go get a license. If they have one, it is fake. But it makes you feel better to think everyone has a license.

    We have so many laws on top of laws on top of laws. In my state they passed the law that now backseat riders in a vehicle must be buckled even if they are over 17. The law used to be just people 17 & under had to be buckled. Then it was people 17 & under and anyone in the front seat. And now it’s the whole da*n car. So, folks 18 and up who are capable of serving in our nations military and ride in tanks and humvees without a seatbelt, are somehow not mature enough to be allowed to decide to wear or not wear a seat belt back in the USA. Good grief! We need to get back to constitutional government. It’s not that hard. It worked well for a long time. We don’t need one law on top of another.

    And I agree with Eric – if I want to buy his milk I should be able to. I have eyes. I have ears. I can go check out his farm and milk handling practices. I can talk to others who have purchased his milk. I can decide for myself if I want to purchase his milk, without the government telling me it’s not an option and without him jumping through the same expensive hoops that the mega corporations have set up so small folks can’t play.

    And as far as Britain installing camera’s. I am appalled that anyone on here would even think that would be a ‘good’ thing. You know, we gotta spy on these folks, geez. Doesn’t it sound too much like Nazi Germany?? If not, then how about you go ahead and sign up for a national id, camera and tattoo on your forehead folks.

    Money, greed, power and control. Makes the world go round – gives you warm fuzzies doesn’t it?

  12. Milk is an excellent example of how messed up the rules are. I can’t sell a gallon of milk to my neighbor, because big corporations want to sell milk with a government safety guarantee, and the government can’t practically oversee every family cow in the country, so for the sake of the corporations my state government basically makes rules which make it illegal to sell milk to my neighbor. If you’re concerned about the safety of raw milk you might buy from your neighbor, then don’t buy it. Or cook it first, same as you would anything else you don’t want to consume raw. Most people — even the regulators themselves– don’t accept that as a solution, though, because their ideas of safety are completely irrational: they have an underlying belief that if it doesn’t look like an industrial product, if it looks like you can tell where it came from and how it got there, then it’s some kind of hazard.

    If you’re totally used to living off the corporate system and dependent on it, then I can see that you’d want that government guarantee, though. Corporate products are inherently suspect, and they beg for some kind of controls. There’s nothing inherently trustworthy about anything on the shelf of a Walmart. If that’s the system you’re living from, then you (and your legislators/constituents, etc.) are going to use the government to clamp down on homesteaders if that’s what it takes to guarantee your own food supply.

    So, in answer to your earlier question, what can be done, the primary answer I’d give is to gain independence from the corporate system as much as we can. The rules and licenses, etc. are made to handle corporate abuses. To the extent that we depend on the corporate/industrial economy, the majority (voters, bureaucrats, legislators, etc.) are going to push for those rules and licenses to constrain it. Those of us wanting to homestead are just collateral damage.

  13. Regina, youre so right! I still dont know what all the fuss is about, I just dont get bent out of shape over licenses and rules. for the most part I say I have to agree with Brandies point of view. I think our food and buildings should have to meet certain standards, what would you do if you drank some bad milk from a farmer that sells it raw? would you say, “well, maybe they’ll be more careful next time” ? or would you want something done about it? stuff like that is regulated to protect the consumer.

  14. Eric, I agree about the need for more sustainable local economies. But I keep seeing these posts about the Amish – like they have reached utopia. Their monetary economies are DEPENDENT on the “English”, the very ones they want nothing to do with (EXCEPT sell their wares to). No offense intended to the Amish or anyone – just sayin’ : )

  15. In response to Brandie’s message.

    Have you ever taken a ride through the country. Look around at all the old houses and barns still standing, most of which are more than 100 years old. I’m sure they were never permitted and inspected. So it would be hard make a comparison to building inspections and Haiti. Haiti is a poor country that even if they had building inspections the people couldn’t afford to do so. We have buildings here in America that are destroyed by earthquakes that have been inspected. Look at the twin towers. They were built to codes, inspected and the people were told that they would handle impacts from big passenger planes and that jet fuel couldn’t burn hot enough to melt the steal beams in the buildings. And there have been cases in America where the schools have been spying on the kids using school issued laptops for other reasons than abuse.

    I thought of one thing that you said and laughed to myself –

    “How about this- this is America, If you don’t like rules, move to a country where there are none. Pretty soon all those β€œbig brother” rules will look pretty good, because in the US, while we complain about rules, we also get alot of protection from those rules.”

    then I thought of this –

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” – Thomas Jefferson

    I do not want you to think I am bashing you just throwing some facts out there but look into the founding of our country and what the founders meant America to be. You will quickly find out that we are far from it. Even I, for the longest time thought we were a democracy until I started studying the Constitution and the founders.

  16. Brandie, you don’t seem so averse to sensationalism yourself! And I think you dismiss Kendra’s points far too lightly. A government camera in private homes is a government camera in private homes. If it can happen to your neighbor (whom you look down on), it can happen to you (whom your neighbor looks down on). Look at the secret police in East Germany or communist Romania or the Khmer Rouge, and tell me that we can take away the freedoms of just the bad people and leave all of us good people at peace. If you trust the government to be that discerning and benevolent, then we can start by throwing the whole Bill of Rights out the window.

    I do agree with you, however, that it’s wrong to assume that government officials are sitting up at night plotting how to take our rights away. The motivations are obviously much more complex and subtle, but the end result is the same. There’s increasingly one value system (I’d tempted to label it all under the umbrella of materialism) and one economy (“always low prices” chemical-pharmaceutical-fossil-fueled capitalism), and the government is increasingly forcing everyone into that system. Only the Amish have been granted some special exemptions (from Social Security, the medical insurance legislation, etc.) to avoid outright outlawing their whole way of life, but the rest of us have to just give up our values and conform.

    You can say that we need building codes and inspectors, etc. to prevent disasters like in Haiti, and those are probably the sincere motivations of the people that pass those laws, but those people don’t care if the local sawmill goes out of business, because I can’t have my neighbor saw some logs off my own property to build my own house. That just has to be sacrificed for the sake of safety. Well how safe is it to depend on large scale logging operations that cause terrible erosion, ruining the productivity of the soils we live from for centuries? How safe is it to depend on Middle East oil to get our lumber from two thousand miles away? How safe is it to depend on clear cutting monocultures for wood? How safe is it not to have productive jobs in our own communities or for our own neighbors? It’s absurdly foolish to dismiss all the collateral damage of these safety quests.

    Comparisons to the exploited ruins of the global economy (Haiti, etc.) are moreover badly misguided. Look at the kind of homes that Americans in reasonably self-sufficient communities built 100 years ago. Many of those kinds of homes will still be standing when homes being built today are falling down, abandoned, still leaching their industrial poisons into our air and soil and water. The need for regulations and inspectors comes primarily from our abandonment of the intrinsic protections of reasonably self-sufficient communities. Sure, I don’t trust pre-fab homes made in China, but the solution isn’t putting the local sawmill out of business; the real solution is to scale our economy back down.

  17. Sorry, I forgot, the people in Haiti didn’t lose their homes and lives due to shoddy building by unlicensed builders They lost all that because they made a pact with the devil. My bad.

  18. Kendra, I love your blog, but seriously, try getting your news source from a site that isn’t just into sensationalism. According to the British paper that your source quoted, the UK childrens’ minister IS looking into installing cameras into the homes of some parents. But these are parents who have neglected their kids due to drugs and alcohol and there aren’t enough social workers to go around to make sure these kids aren’t getting beaten and are being fed! That’s why they are considering installing cameras. I have some crack-head neighbors down the street with 7 kids that could probably use the same thing. Much to your disappointment, I’m sure, there really isn’t a government committee that sits up at nights and dreams up new licenses to “take away your rights”. Yeah, paying a fee and getting permission from the government for certain things sucks, HOWEVER try living in a country where nobody cares about getting a driver’s license. Have fun driving those roads! Or ask a 10 year old girl how it feels to get married off to her 45 year old uncle- there are plenty of countries where that happens today -because the laws governing marriage are slack. How bout living in one of the shanties that collapsed in Haiti during the recent earthquake because there were no building inspections? In the few developing countries where people try to regulate these things, if you have enough money to pay off somebody with a bribe, you’re in business. How about this- this is America, If you don’t like rules, move to a country where there are none. Pretty soon all those “big brother” rules will look pretty good, because in the US, while we complain about rules, we also get alot of protection from those rules. Protections we don’t think about because people here have to get a license before they perform surgery, drive a school-bus, make sure a dog get a rabies shot, build your house, etc…….. by the way, I’m looking at my marriage license right now, and I’m having a hard time finding where it states that the government has the right to take away my children and my property- could you please point that part out to me?

  19. I think talk about freedom is a pointless joke for a country of helpless dependents. How can we be free when we depend on a corporate economy for cars and roads and gas, for heat, for the materials our homes are made of, for our clothes, for the networks (like this internet) that we rely on for communication, for air conditioning, for the power to make our poop disappear, etc., etc., and when we primarily give our own labor over to that same economy, working to advance its purposes? Can we be economically dependent and politically free? I don’t think so. Aren’t we like a bunch of 8-year olds talking about freedom from our parents? If we can learn to stand on our own feet to some degree, then maybe we can pursue freedom. In the meantime, I think we need to limit our calls and protests for freedom with the understanding that that freedom isn’t really even for us to use in the present, but for later on when we intend to grow up.

  20. I hear ya Kendra! Right there with you. πŸ™‚ All these laws and regulations, most are “new” as a way to “protect” people. Give me my own free will thank you very much. My husband and I have a brain and know how to use it, if more people were expected and allowed to have a brain, then they would. Most laws were passed because of a few people, not because the masses wanted them.

  21. Great post….agree. We are NOT free in the good old USA.

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty,
    the tranquility of servitude
    better than the animating contest of freedom,
    go home from us in peace.
    We ask not your counsels or your arms.
    Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
    May your chains set lightly upon you,
    and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

    Samuel Adams

  22. Um, yeah. Because of all the house-building permits and such (which, I sure do like running water and all, but if you want to die from your house burning down from lack of smoke alarms, that’s your perogative), there’s no way my family can realistically afford the kind of house a family our size is “supposed” to have (i.e. a bedroom for each kid – we may just end up with 4 kids in a 10’x10′ bedroom). Which is a whole ‘nother tangent, but still.

    We *are* being taxed out of our freedoms, and it’s only going to be noticed by the majority when it’s far, far too late. πŸ™

  23. WOW! Where to start? How about the reason for government according to the Constitution. Most of you know it as the Preamble –

    “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”

    To sum this up we can say to protect our rights, regulate interstate commerce and protect our land from foreign attack, not regulate how many gallons our toilets can use, tell us how to raise our children or force us to get tags/registration for OUR cars along with a license to drive that car. What is the common factor in all of these – MONEY!!! In order to get a permit or license from the government to do what you already have a right to do in most cases, you have to pay them money. I say exercise your unalienable rights given to you by God and challenge a unlawful government! If enough people do this then the laws that take away our freedoms will start getting overturned. The problem is that most of us have been taught that we should go along with the flow and not challenge the government. As Christians we are told Romans 13. Let’s look at verse 3 “For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil” So that seems to me like you should have nothing to worry about along as you are not harming someone else’s property/rights. Could someone evil not come into control of a government and use it’s laws for wrong? Does Hitler ring a bell? He won by a majority and look what happened there. Oh, and by the way Hilter used Romans 13 as well to control his people into doing his will. I also know that Churches have a 501c3 status granted by the government. You should look into this. So much for separation of Church and state. The state also gives the preacher a license to preach and to marry? Really, aren’t these things given by God? When did the state come into the picture. And ask your pastor what would happen if he chooses to speak out against politicians or unlawful government acts. So these laws are here to protect us? They would never want to take our money! You trust politicians right? Most people just believe what they are told and do not question or look into it for themselves. So read the Constitution and study the laws and origin of these licenses and where they came from. You might be surprised and start challenging them for yourself.

  24. Sandra, you can find America’s remedy at In short, the remedy is for everyone to LEARN how lawful government was stolen from us, DECLARE state citizenship, and PARTICIPATE in lawful government. We must all resist unconstitutional law together. This is the right and legal way to resist what the government is doing.

    I also believe there is no “quick fix” for the problems America has today. The roots of immorality and personal irresponsibility can only be fixed over generations. The very fact that these issues have been such a controversial topic on this blog is the perfect example of how difficult it is to sell folks on the ideals of true liberty and freedom.

    And no, voting (in the de facto system) IS NOT the answer:

  25. But really, what is your answer? ( I mean to what can be done) Protest? I dont think that does much good. call your congressman? ha ha… vote? I always vote, but I’m not sure if even that matters anymore. I never thought about licenses and such before this post, and Ive gotta say, it dosent really bother me, but some things do need to be changed, but I just dont think it can be done anymore.

    • Sandra,

      I don’t know. I wish I knew. I wish SOMEBODY knew. I don’t have the answer. But I do believe that awareness of what is going on is a first step. I don’t know how much good calling congress people does, but I still do it. I don’t know how much good protesting does, but I still do it. I can’t honestly say that I’m sure the voting system isn’t rigged, but I still vote. I DO know that laying down and taking it is NOT the answer. And making a big fuss about stuff does seem to do some good. So I say, SCREAM FROM THE ROOF TOPS, do everything you can to let your voice be heard. That’s what I’m gonna do, anyways.

      If enough people refuse to accept an unConstitutional law, and refuse to comply, then they can’t enforce it. STICKING TOGETHER IS THE ANSWER!

  26. Yeah, yeah, yeah. πŸ™‚ I guess I wouldn’t feel slammed if I heard your pretty voice saying it πŸ™‚ You need to get Sprint again so we can talk more. Love ya too~!

  27. I see your points. I’m just saying that we really do have it good in America, it’s worth fighting for, but let’s also be thankful.

  28. That was a joke, by the way. I just realized my post might have come across badly. I forgot the smiley face. πŸ˜‰

  29. I just wanted to point out that driver’s licenses are now called “endorsements,” not licenses. As far as I’m concerned, those are the certificates Kendra wanted right there. And that’s all I’m going to say, because I know from experience that liberals aren’t exactly encouraged to share their point on view on these political posts, and I don’t want to start another argument. But good for you, Ashley C, for sticking your neck out!

  30. Kendra, awesome post!

    I am happy to say to the readers here that my wife, Sara and I started learning early enough that we did not get a marriage license last year when we got married. And we have determined that we will NOT get one, no matter what ‘difficulties’ it may cause. People died for any remaining freedoms we have, and it is the very LEAST we can do.

    Here are links to our covenant document and the booklets we handed out at our wedding:

    Now concerning the licensing/permits for driving, building houses, schooling, etc. — though these are all separate issues, I believe most of us suffer from the same delusion, no matter the issue.

    Lynn, Kara, you each seem to echo Ashley’s acceptance of “safety” as one of the reasons we have all of these license/permit requirements. As Kendra has so reminded us, when we surrender our freedom in exchange for security, we will deserve neither and lose both.

    My wife and I often joke when we see drivers doing crazy things. “I can’t believe they are driving like that! Do they not have a license?!” Fact is, regardless of how many licenses and permits we have, people will still do crazy things. The question has been posed to me before, “If licensing (and all of our other laws) are so successful, why do we still have so many problems?” Why, with all of our “law making”, isn’t this country getting perpetually better and better? And why isn’t our moral foundation better than it was, say 100 years ago?

    Look at it this way. If you are driving recklessly and have an accident, what is the natural consequence? Injury? Pain? Suffering? Death? What is the government’s consequence for us in attempting to prevent this accident? In most cases, the consequence for statute-breaking is a slap on the wrist. It is a monetary fine. A monetary fine which only makes this government larger and more bloated with yet more laws than we had before. What would happen if we removed our man-made “preventative law” in exchange for the harsh reality and consequences which God already has in place? What if there were no “firewall” between us and God’s full wrath? How much more careful would we be as drivers, citizens, teachers, students, home builders?

    Looking a bit closer at the relationship between freedom, personal responsibility, and security, we see that they are each quite affected by the other. In today’s quest for “safety”, we have insured ourselves, our vehicles, our houses and more. We have licensed and ‘permitted’ ourselves and we have created law on top of law to help ‘prevent’ disaster. Yet, in this quest, we have curtailed our God-given rights and freedoms and in doing so have also inadvertently attempted to avoid God’s natural consequences which he has put in place.

  31. But couldn’t licenses also exist to protect us? For example, you don’t get a license in order to own your land, but decide just o live on it. Someone comes one day and starts building a house on it. You say, “Get out! This is my land!” They say, “No it’s not! This is a free country, I can build wherever I’d like”. A license would legally say it’s YOURS and protect you from someone coming to live on your land without permission.

    Also, why do we always look at laws a prohibitive instead of protective? I think a remedy for this would be to travel to a third world country and gain a broader perspective of what this world has to offer (we have it GOOD in America). For instance, when I was in Africa, there were hardly any road laws. In America, we might call our road laws “restrictive”, but after being in Africa and seeing how people drive, and how most of the cars have fender-bender scars, I’m GLAD for our restrictive laws.

    Just some thoughts.

    • Ash,

      First of all, you don’t get a license to own your land, you get a title. Second of all, laws were formed to protect us and our property. So, no, somebody could not legally come onto your land and build whatever they want. It is YOUR property, legally, and we have a court that will enforce that. A license has nothing to do with it. Thirdly, did you miss the Jefferson quote?? We should never sacrifice our freedoms for security. When our judicial system was set up, it was meant to protect people and property from harm. If we would stick to just that, and not allow the government to mandate every personal choice we make, we will be much better off, and yes, still better than lawless third world countries who have no true justice system. I’m not saying that all laws are bad. I too am thankful for driving restrictions. I drive on those roads with three infinitely precious children. I am just saying that we need to draw a line in the sand SOMEWHERE!

  32. While many seem to be comfortable with the greater intrusions on self-sufficiency and personal responsibility I would like them to consider that just because one has a license or permit does not make everything in life safe or better.

    While I do believe the motivation for them can be justified as safety I have also believe these costs are another form of taxes for local gov’t to support itself with.

    Getting permits should level the playing field in theory but it also reduces access to those less financially fortunate (a larger separation of low income, a supression of middle income and increase in opportunity for the wealthy).

    If you have ever had multiple inspectors on one job or similar jobs you will quickly find out that each has their own take on the law and requirements and many demands they make are based little on either but costs you a great deal (further suppressing the access of the less than wealthy).

    A license to drive does not make a child a safe driver. Education and experience does and that used to come from parents and not just some gov’t agency. College degrees do not make people proficient or even adequately prepared for their profession, only exprience does this.

    Many may find that the dreams they had for self-suffiency and family may not remain “permittable” or affordable to do so. This restriction of liberty does concern me more than many who have responded and I realize my take on this is probably foreign to them.

    The more and more we are regulated the less and less we can do for ourselves. While one may view this as providing a safety net from ourselves, I find it to be limiting and suppressive.

    Large companies have ruined this economy through poor and risky decisions. Some where too big to fail. Most were licensed to do what they did. Ironically their lawyers are the one’s who now have congress and the senate considering bills that would make it so that small mom and pop businesses cannot conduct business as usual without huge requirements and fees and yet, it was not the mom and pops that got too big to fail or harmed this economy. The S.A.F.E. act for example will reduce if not eliminate mortgage lenders competition from mom and pop people being able to owner finance properties…. so who will you have to borrow from if you want to buy a house? The same companies that caused this problem.

    This is permittable but is it really these companies who we want to run this countries home ownership? What if you credit or income does not appeal to these lenders? Does this mean your homestead dream is over? It might be if they can help it. And yes, they will have the license to do so.


  33. Well said Ashley.

    I believe that there are many reasons why each and every one of these licenses exist.

    I see what you are saying though, however everything is relative. Think about some of the horrible living conditions that people are suffering in throughout the world, and count yourself blessed to be able to have the freedoms that you do have.

  34. Kendra, I couldn’t agree more! I am facing this right how with the house building issue. I can’t put anything on the land my parents gave me without permission. It’s ridiculous. I want to use an alternative to a septic, but the building inspector said NO. No explanation, no nothing. So without $8000 to put in what the state says is a good system, I can’t be there.

    Thank you so much for this post, this is definitely getting passed along!

  35. My DH & I don’t have a marriage license. We were married though by an ordained elder of our church who knew up front we didn’t have one and didn’t object. We explained the situation/circumstances for why we didn’t have one and he understood. In some cases, like ours, being “legally” married would make things more difficult. We went through marriage counseling, had a regular (though small and inexpensive) wedding, have pictures to remember the day, had guests we still converse with regularly, etc. But we got married with the idea that it was more about our commitment to each other & the relationship (between us and G-d) than it was about some piece of paper. We did not make a big deal of it; there was no announcement regarding our lack of a state license. Most people just assume you have one and it’s not something most people question. Now, we do have wills to stand in and make sure the other spouse is taken care of should anything happen and I do recommend that strongly.

    Now, as for the permits for building a home and driving, I’m with Ashley C on those. It would be great if everyone was responsible and did things the way they know they should be done, but too many people just won’t or don’t for whatever reason. And there are people out there who purposefully build homes without permits and don’t do it following code and other people, children, get hurt. And there are parents who would allow a child to drive a car/bike/scooter with little or no “how to”. However, all that said, I believe most of those permissions should be done as locally as possible with as few as possible being in control of the federal government.

  36. I get your point, and things like cameras in our house etc freaks me out and we need to push back….but a lot of “permissions” we have to get have a valid reason beyond just controlling the masses (I just think it dumb we have to pay for most of them! lol). We have to have some sort of rules to help prevent chaos. Our world is much different than it used to be so theyve become necessary sadly. Youd have 100 years of society to undue to change much of this. But think about it a bit.

    You have to ask permission to school kids bc some parents just wouldnt teach anything (I wish we could change the work ethic in this country!) and thats not fair to the child. We ask to build a home (which I hate too btw..its a HUGE pain and its my damn house! LOL) mainly because its a SAFETY issue. Ive built a home, barn, and workshop so I know how important it is (my gpa did the electrical before we had a permit…turns out he did it wrong and it couldve killed us!). And if we let teens just hop in a car and drive, people are more likely to be killed. Another safety issue. I know this personally, my brother is dead bc of an ignorant driver.

    As for marriage, it definetly should be about you and your love and God! However, we get a lot of benefits out of it being a “legal” marriage right? I know I do. My husband is serving our country in the military and offering his life for it but if we didnt have a legal marriage my son and I would be left to fend for ourselves. Theres a million ways to argue it, but in this world we have to pick our battles. Itll never be perfect, we just have to keep our eyes and ears open.

    Im just glad to live in a time where us ladies can vote and share our angers over this, that we can own property, have jobs if we want them, and can be born into poverty but become successful if we work for it! My great grandmothers world was much different than ours (she tells me this all the time!), and though much of it was better…much of it was also worse.

    • Ashley,

      I hear ya, believe me, I hear ya. I’ve thought a lot about that too. There definitely NEED to be laws in place, and restrictions to some degree. But you can’t honestly say that government isn’t overstepping their boundaries. Yes, I totally see the necessity in people being taught to drive properly before allowing them on the road. But couldn’t that be taught through a course, and then a certificate issued to those who pass, instead of a license? I don’t know. I totally see both sides of the story. My father has been in law enforcement for 25 years, and I completely see the need for order in society. About the marriages, it used to be that families would record marriages and births in their family Bible, and the church was in charge of the records (which the Mormon church has done a fantastic job of doing, if you ever get into genealogy). Why did the state get involved? Did you know that marriage licenses started when the slaves wanted to intermarry… and then it just spilled over into every marriage. More money to the government, more control. I believe you can still receive benefits through “common law” marriage. And as for the homeschooling thing, the kind of people who aren’t going to teach their kids anything either send them to public school, or wouldn’t even register with the state anyways, so the law doesn’t even matter to them. So what is the point of having it? I think instead, that if allegations were brought against a family that they were not properly schooling their children, a simple test could prove if it were true or not. Why does every single GOOD, and honest family have to ask permission? That’s not right. Not only that, but we have to PAY for it!! Even though our taxes go to fund public schools, we are penalized for not using that resource. We ought to get a tax break!! And as for our homes, I feel, if I want to live in a home I built out of scrap wood, with no indoor plumbing, and totally off-grid with no modern conveniences, then I ought to be able to do that on my own land, no questions asked. If your poorly built home actually does hurt somebody, then you should be charged. Where is personal responsibility? Nobody is accountable to themselves anymore, they have to have a “Nanny” watching over them. I know we need some laws, but unless you hurt somebody else, or their property, the government ought to have no say in the matter.

      Just my two cents πŸ™‚

    • One more thing…

      (Sorry!! LOL, I’m a bit passionate about the subject. In between making pancakes I keep running back to the computer to add one more thing πŸ™‚ )

      If you say that we should require homeschoolers to register because some parents might not teach their kids anything, then would you not say that we should have cameras in every parent’s home because some parents might abuse their kids?? Where does it stop? Should every person be required to have a “parenting license” to be sure that they’ve had proper brain washing, oh, I mean “training”? Should everybody be sterilized until they have taken a parenting course, and have agreed to allow cameras in their homes? It’s for the children’s safety, after all. It’s a slippery slope. Sounds far fetched, but so did cameras in homes until it became a reality!

      By the way, I meant to say this earlier, Ashley, I am truly sorry to hear about the loss of your bother. I cannot imagine how devastating that must have been to your family.


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